Overview

INTJ in a Nutshell

INTJs are analytical problem-solvers, eager to improve systems and processes with their innovative ideas. They have a talent for seeing possibilities for improvement, whether at work, at home, or in themselves.

Often intellectual, INTJs enjoy logical reasoning and complex problem-solving. They approach life by analyzing the theory behind what they see, and are typically focused inward, on their own thoughtful study of the world around them. INTJs are drawn to logical systems and are much less comfortable with the unpredictable nature of other people and their emotions. They are typically independent and selective about their relationships, preferring to associate with people who they find intellectually stimulating.

What Makes the INTJ Tick

INTJs are perceptive about systems and strategy, and often understand the world as a chess board to be navigated. They want to understand how systems work, and how events proceed: the INTJ often has a unique ability to foresee logical outcomes. They enjoy applying themselves to a project or idea in depth, and putting in concentrated effort to achieve their goals.

INTJs have a hunger for knowledge and strive to constantly increase their competence; they are often perfectionists with extremely high standards of performance for themselves and others. They tend to have a keen interest in self-improvement and are lifelong learners, always looking to add to their base of information and awareness.

Recognizing an INTJ

INTJs are typically reserved and serious, and seem to spend a lot of time thinking. They are curious about the world around them and often want to know the principle behind what they see. They thoroughly examine the information they receive, and if asked a question, will typically consider it at length before presenting a careful, complex answer. INTJs think critically and clearly, and often have an idea about how to do something more efficiently. They can be blunt in their presentation, and often communicate in terms of the larger strategy, leaving out the details.

Although INTJs aren’t usually warm or particularly gregarious, they tend to have a self-assured manner with people based on their own security in their intelligence. They relate their ideas with confidence, and once they have arrived at a conclusion they fully expect others to see the wisdom in their perceptions. They are typically perfectionists and appreciate an environment of intellectual challenge. They enjoy discussing interesting ideas, and may get themselves into trouble because of their take-no-prisoners attitude: if someone’s beliefs don’t make logical sense, the Mastermind typically has no qualms about pointing that out.

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INTJ in the Population

INTJ is the third rarest type in the population, and the rarest type among women (with ENTJ). INTJs make up:

  • 2% of the general population
  • 3% of men
  • 1% of women

Popular Hobbies

Popular hobbies for the INTJ include reading, cultural events, taking classes, appreciating art, computers and video games, and independent sports such as swimming, backpacking, or running marathons.

Famous INTJs

Famous INTJs include Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Bill Gates, Dwight Eisenhower, Alan Greenspan, Ulysses S. Grant, Stephen Hawking, John Maynard Keynes, Ayn Rand, Isaac Asimov, Lewis Carroll, Cormac McCarthy, and Sir Isaac Newton.

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Research on INTJ

Interesting facts about the INTJ:

  • On personality trait measures, score as Discreet, Industrious, Logical, Deliberate, Self-Confident, and Methodical
  • Among types least likely to suffer heart disease and cardiac problems
  • Least likely of all the types to believe in a higher spiritual power
  • One of two types with highest college GPA
  • Among types with highest income
  • Personal values include Achievement
  • Of all types, least likely to state that they value Home/family, Financial security, Relationships & friendships, and Community service
  • Overrepresented among MBA students and female small business owners
  • Commonly found in scientific or technical fields, computer occupations, and legal professions

What the Experts Say

"INTJs are the most independent of all the sixteen types and take more or less conscious pride in that independence."

- Isabel Briggs Myers, Gifts Differing

"Difficulties are highly stimulating to INTJs, who love responding to a problem that requires a creative solution."

- David Keirsey, Please Understand Me II

"Their capacity for intellectual and conceptual clarity gives INTJs both vision and the will to see it through to completion—leadership qualities that are prized in our society."

- Otto Kroeger, Type Talk at Work

At Work

INTJ at Work

At work, the INTJ excels at creating and implementing innovative solutions to analytical problems. They naturally see possibilities for improvement within complex systems and are organized and determined in implementing their ideas for change.

INTJs are comfortable with abstraction and theory but gain the most satisfaction from turning their ideas into reality. They often enjoy working independently or with a small team, taking measured, strategic steps to implement change.

INTJs enjoy working with logical systems that they can understand in depth. They enjoy the challenge of comprehending complex ideas, and want to understand how they can improve the way things work.

The ideal work environment for an INTJ is logical, efficient, structured, and analytical, with colleagues that are competent, intelligent, and productive. The ideal job for a Mastermind allows them to use their analytical skills to problem-solve in a challenging environment, and to take responsibility for implementing their ideas to create efficient, innovative systems.

Least Popular Careers for INTJs

It is important to note that any personality type can be successful in any occupation. However, some occupations are well suited to the natural talents and preferred work style of the INTJ, while other occupations demand modes of thinking and behavior that do not come as naturally to this type. Occupations that require the Mastermind to operate outside their natural preferences may prove stressful or draining, and often sound unappealing to INTJs who are choosing a career.

The following occupations have been found to be unpopular among INTJs, based on data gathered from surveys of the general population.

INTJs as Leaders

In leadership positions, INTJs are strategic, analytical planners and problem solvers. They are good at making tough decisions and sorting out complex issues. Masterminds excel at managing projects that implement a vision of improved efficiency or innovation, and although they usually prefer not to have to manage other people, they will take over if no other leader steps up. As leaders, they are democratic and hands-off: they generally prefer to share the overall goal and let their reports determine exactly how to complete their work.

INTJs value competence and decisiveness, and may sometimes neglect to listen to differing opinions once their mind is made up. While they focus on creating logical and innovative solutions, they may sometimes leave out the details of their plans, leaving their teams to wonder exactly how things will be accomplished.

INTJs on a Team

INTJs are analytical team members who focus on strategy. They are often perceptive about systems and how to improve them. They are thoughtful and clear in their analysis, and good at defining team goals. They are capable of synthesizing ideas of some complexity, and often see clearly to a unifying plan of action. INTJs take a characteristically critical approach, and analyze ideas and proposals with a detached, objective logic. They want to be free to make improvements to existing systems, and do best on a team where change is favored.

INTJs are open to ideas, and will consider the perspectives of the team members with an even-handed approach. However, they are firm and clear in their logical analysis, and have little patience for nonsense. They are unlikely to offer support or assurance to teammates who they don’t perceive as useful contributors. They are persuasive in their reasoning and often get teammates on board based on the clarity of their ideas. However, they may have friction with team members who have a focus on relationships; the Mastermind seeks a free exchange of ideas, not a personal connection.

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INTJ Communication Style

INTJs are direct and detached in their communication. They often naturally see how something could be done better and usually communicate their criticism in a straightforward, logical manner. They are typically independent and calm; they are not so much concerned about being liked or appreciated as they are with being competent and thoughtful. Their communications are typically well thought-out, insightful, and strategic. They often plan well into the future and offer big-picture analysis for improving systems.

INTJs as Partners

In relationships, the INTJ is loyal but independent. INTJs can be almost scientific in choosing a mate and make devoted partners once they have found a match that fits their rigorous list of requirements. They often have clear ideas about what makes for a solid relationship and are unwavering in their pursuit of this ideal.

INTJs often have a passion for self-improvement and are encouraging of their partners' goals and intellectual pursuits. However, they do not usually see the need for frivolous affection or romance, feeling that their devotion should be evident. They are more focused on serving their partners with hard work and resourceful problem-solving than they are on showering them with attention.

INTJs' partners often find them difficult to read, and indeed they do not show emotion easily; they find the process of discussing emotions much too messy and disorganized. They enjoy solving difficult problems, but are often out of their depth when it comes to illogical, unpredictable personal issues.

INTJs value a partner that allows them the independence to achieve their goals, and one who appreciates their efficacy, insight, and ability to offer creative solutions to problems.

INTJs as Parents

As parents, INTJs are devoted and supportive. They set firm limits and provide consistent reinforcement, but within that structure allow a lot of latitude for their children to explore their own interests and potential. They are encouraging of their childrens' intellectual pursuits and enthusiastic about sharing knowledge.

INTJs enjoy the process of developing a young mind, and get a lot of satisfaction from parenting. They want to develop productive, competent, and self-sufficient children who think for themselves.

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Perfect!.. This describes me 100%! :)

so true

I agree.... I was scared when I saw how accurate this was

I am also an INTJ. This completely describes me as I am very independent.

An INTJ would never say that !

Funny - your description of an INTJ is pretty spot on. Until I discovered Myers Briggs a few years ago, I really thought that there was something wrong with me - in that I can't communicate properly or clearly enough to keep people's attention or to properly illustrate the answer.... Then, I discovered that it has more to do with how my brain works then how I present or articulate the answer... And how others receive it of course... Turns out, I'm not insane, just was having a hard time understanding how others receive and process information and therefore, was having a hard time communicating clearly with them. I still have challenges but more so in "how" I want to go about helping folks to understand so my frustrations seem more grounded and able to be influenced by experience and thought compared to thinking that I'm insane or everyone else is insane since really, there is no cure for that (by in large)... Again, still infuriating but more constructive infuriation, I suppose....

~Sage
aka Ninja

You and I had the same problem.

Me too! This test really amazed me and brought so much insight into my life!!!

Me too... I have a hard time explaining stuff to people, because I assume they think the same way as I do. Turns out, they usually can't follow my line of thought. I don't believe in God either, and have high expectations of other people. But I'm not that independent. I can grow very emotionally attached to some people I like, and it's very easy to hurt me, too...
Spot-on. I didn't think INTJ was such a rare personality though... Makes sense, in a way.

I've had a similar experience. I hate admitting this, but it is the truth. I was a horrible student in school, and never finished college. I hated my instructors because once somebody attempted to talk down to me I would shut them out completely.... I viewed them as being low IQ idiots, and who is going to pay attention to somebody like that? What that has meant for me is that I've lived an unfulfilled life, working unrewarding jobs, and I admit I have contemplated suicide on more than on occasion. Who wants to live in a world where they don't fit in, can't find seem to get established in a career, and their entire existence is devoid of any enjoyment or pleasure? As it is, I am literally a step above homeless. I'm living back with my parents - at 44 years of age - and I can't seem to find the resources to enable me to finish college.(My students loans fell into default, even though they are slowly being paid off) I've been unemployed for the last year and it has been devastating to me on a personal and emotional level. I just can't seem to make it in this world, and I can't see a way out of this situation.
I've taken the MB tests in various forms over 100 times, and I am most definitely a strong INTJ.
Sometimes I can't even sleep at night, I will lay down and my mind races and sleep never comes, so I wind up getting up until I almost pass out... I am guessing this is part of the depression I am facing. There was a time in my life when I had a purpose in my life and I felt like my life mattered, and I was of some service, but these days that is all gone. Here is the funny part: INTJ's are typically not strong believers in "God", but I spent almost 18 years in a religious cult. I bought it hook line and sinker, and in the end, I was deceived by somebody who is, in their own mind, deceived. It was definitely a case of the blind leading the blind, and in the end, after the death of one of my closest friends, I had a nervous breakdown of sorts, and because I did not understand how to deal with the emotional distress I was facing, I began eating to make myself feel better. In the end, I wound up weighing 420lbs by 2006. I finally went to the doctor and was told,"Lose it or die." I lost 121lbs and have fluctuated between 300lbs and 330lbs since 2006. I have not been able to lose any more weight. It is as if somebody else is in control of my mind when it comes to eating, and that just drives me deeper into depression. Some days i am fine, some days I am saddened by the fact that I woke up.

I sugest you create a posative visualization board. Get images that motivate & inspire you, & paste them onto the board; like a collage. Hang or mount that board upon the wall. Choose a spot that you have the highest tendancy to glance/gaze/star at in your home, when your feeling self-defeating. Scan an image-copy into your cell phone. That way, you can look at it anytime & everywhere you go. Seek a free gym & if one can't be found: "closed mouthes don't get fed", so go into a local gym & talk to a person in charge (like the director) & tell your life story [the lack of hope, low self-esteem, thoughts of suacide, depression, the reason for your over-eating, etc.]... also try a yoga or thi-chi intrructor/instructed facility. Even hiking! You need to get exercise. Go to the gvt. office for free resources list & ask about free counseling. Taking charge of your health is great!! Try raw or vegan foods & juicing. Look up other peoples progress in their weightloss journys utalizing the raw foods or vegan or juicing in YouTube :). Take up hobbies (card games, modle car building, dancing, reading uplifting or non negative books, art, music, needle-point, berry picking, bird watching, etc.! :) This will help keep your mental focus off of negativity's. Start a journal! Speak posative affirmations. Mimmic power posses. Force your self to smile for 1-2 minutes straight, before you roll out of bed. Take free online classes! Watch the TED channel. Take gratitude in the fact that your having this allotted time to renew your spirit & replenish your life! This is a season in your life to take action to heal. Because things will start to look up & change for the better, & your life will end up being better than you can currently imagine.

Tim, I don't know if this will make anything better, but here goes. Although my case may sound exactly the opposite (I did study - got a PhD), that part was mainly because I had a father who taught me to see conventional learning not as "narrow-minded individuals" teaching me, but as (a) stage in my own development, which it was within MY decision to place within my OWN bigger-picture of life (he taught me to take decisions very early in life - my first important one was at age 10, not that it wasn't a guided decision of course). An ISFP himself, he did a fantastic job at teaching me how to see the big picture and find my own way. However, that did not satisfy my "TJ", to put it simplistically. With an ESFJ mother, I did get some structure in my life, though in most cases with eyes rolling from me... The thing is, it was only in my mid-20s that I actually came into contact with a great mentor for me (he was a coach) who could really see not only the potential, but especially important, the WAYS for ME to work on what I was missing (ways he helped ME find). All this did NOT spare me from depression and overeating (realising the difference between what "could be" and what is can be tough - I'm sure I don't need to get into details)... However, the MAIN lesson I learned from my coach was self-responsibility. This is where I see empowerment for each and every INTJ (and surely, not only): "what can I do to change what I don't like in my life?" is the constant question I ask myself...
As for the weight, what really helped me with food addiction were books by Jason Vale and among others, a film by Joe Cross. What helped me move were Tracy Anderson's DVDs. Until I was 25, I had numerous religious searches (luckily, I only spent 1 year in what was called a "cult" in my country). All those searches led me to the same conclusion, which may of course be different for each individual... The point is, we have one life and it is NEVER too late to start acting towards our own right way...
The only thing I would suggest giving it a go is to find a coach you feel in sync with as much as possible.
Best of luck!

Tim, it's all in your head I smoked for over 20 years. And, one day I told myself I didn't smoke, and if I do smoke I would be that 50 year old man working around with the oxygen tank. The one tool you have, the thing that will empower you is your imagination. You have the will to stop if you use the right tools. Ask yourself when do you eat? why do you eat? where do you eat? And, remove those things from your life. If you continue to eat what will you look like to the outside world! Do not become convinced that by losing this weight it's going to solve all your problems, because it's not going too. Yet, it's one problem at a time, one day at a time. Stay focused,set reasonable goals, and whatever you do don't give up. Since, I quit smoking I gained 50 lbs, and like you I need to lose 50 lbs. So, I have a plan, (My Plan My Way)and I'll lose all of it by Christmas. What ya say 50 lbs by Christmas?

Yes. I know this story. Here are a few of the directions I tried that correlate with the other wit driven replies. Find counsel, talk private live public. Avoid bigPharma meds, but consider recent research on refined nicotine [NA+] such as found in smoking cessation gums, lozenges and huffers. There is a lot of control over appetite (self-medication drives) and mental processing that can be had quite cheaply, and relatively safely here. Accept fluctuations and confide in professionals and skilled inspirational, while at the same time avoiding the industrial pep-talk circuit. Test your talents and aim at them. Relent to and unload activities unrelated to your personal aptitudes. If you are given to tipples, downgrade your choices to non-carbohydrate traditional forms like wine and non-sugar liquor in modest pleasure reward cycles. Consider a fat based diet, such as in LCHF and the recent research there (see Gary Taubes). Don't sweat the living with parents social stigma by reading up on Generation Theory by Strauss & Howe. Social and Cultural conditions really are awful, and your personal role in the effects of these phenomena is very small relative to the violent polity that drives them. Consider your political tendencies by taking a few of the political tendencies tests floating around on-line. Advocate on your own terms in opposition to the shittiness of the world. Develop a privacy centred imaginary for your emotional Fi life, for instance; an environmentally protected lake, an RSO 3 class 1 cleanroom, or a pristine natural park with limited licensed visitors. Avoid giving away emotional leverage to meddlers, nuisance people and the cruel. Discern the associations between your Intuition and your Feelings. Consider Bergsonian (Henri Bergson) intuition as a philosophical ground for activating and mobilizing your reception. House plants and low emotion pets, such as in terrariums and aquariums can be subtly reassuring. Use your screen saver to set unconscious conceptual and self-goal type reminders. Have a look at Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Go to a few art galleries and museums as needed. Bother people who seem intelligent with your own thoughts until they either run from or reply to your interests. Get your genome tested, learn more about your traits, so as to understand yourself as a biological identity with bio-power. Throw up a private blog and invite people you admire. Expect less from people than yourself, but be prepared to blow off either in tight corners where things don't work out with exact precision. Review your old toys, games and objects you used to like, and keep them around for reflection. Be patient, be dangerous, and try to solve one or more of the problems that you judge are making the world harmful and its citizens wrong-headed.

Bon Chance!

Tim,

I am the same. A little younger, but cult, education, depression are all the same.

I disagree with some of the replies given to you. In my experience many of them are just busy-work that gives you comfort that you are doing something. Here is the truth: eat less, move more, be happy, move on. Eat one bite less. Move for 5 minutes. Have a goal to make yourself happy once per day. Taking the smallest steps possible will get more results than reading gurus and having a more enlightened view of your problems. ITNJ's try and think ourselves out of the problem. Now though, you have to *do* something. Which is not the area we are most comfortable in.

When I left the JW cult, I had to leave my family, community, and every single friend I had. But, I can have a life now, the people still in the religion are in stasis. They will die never growing beyond their world. You are able to start over, have a career, kids, anything you want. You just have to take it. Shake it off and live beyond what they could ever imagine.

Thanks for sharing this about yourself, Tim. I think summaries of INTJs tend to gloss over just how difficult it is to not instinctively understand your own emotions. We might be intensely pragmatic, but we are still human. Not being able to identify your own feelings and needs is a HUGE hardship, especially if you're predisposed to brain chemistry issues or experience PTSD/trauma. I often feel like I can understand everything but myself. If I'm unsatisfied, unhappy, or frustrated with something in my life, it can take years for me to realize where that negativity is coming from. To make matters worse, I feel ashamed of myself if I can't logically justify my feelings. Consequently, if I experience an irrational emotion like jealousy, I keep it locked away inside and berate myself for ever having felt it -- which obviously just makes matters worse. It's also really hard for me to extricate myself from toxic and manipulative people, if they're savvy enough to appeal to my sense of logic. No matter how badly I feel, I will stay and suffer if it objectively looks like a "fair" situation.

The only advice I can offer is to try familiarizing yourself with your own feelings. It can be hard, but you're capable of using your rational deduction skills to figure out what's missing from your life and how to go about attaining it. I find that keeping a journal helps with this, since it's a way to express what's on my mind without the additional stress of making sure it's understandable to someone else. It's also helpful to look back over a week or month or year of your own mental/emotional ups and downs and analyze it like any other data -- finding what activities and people made you happy, which ones triggered depressive cycles, and what mistakes get repeated. You'd probably also benefit from exploring different forms of spirituality and seeing if you can find one that makes sense to you. Losing your religion as well as a close friend is an enormous trauma, and it sounds like it's robbed you of your hope. It could make a world of difference for you to find something bigger than yourself to believe in, on your own terms and in your own way. I wish you the best of luck!

Thank you, whoever made that comment! Really rings true - I hadn't appreciated how difficult it is, as an INTJ, to admit to, feel OK with, let alone understand ones own emotions, particularly the really negative and painful ones. Good tips offered. I think these will help me, and hope they might help Tim too.... All the best to you, Guest and Tim, whoever you are!!

Tim, I am with you!

I am older than you, and living back at home. I went 3 years to college and quit, went through the meaningless job thing and now can't get a job. So I am looking at going back to school - and here is something practical for you. They have this 'loan rehabilitation' program. I did it and it works. They ask you to make really small payments for 6 months. Mine were $12 a month. After that you are put on the track to going back to school - meaning that if you apply for a loan for school, they will take care of it and approve it. After another 6 months you are officially rehabilitated, your penalties and fees are waived, and re-set back to the principle.

Here is another good part: If you cannot afford the payments, you can get a 6 month deferral. In that time, if you get a job you can start paying back the loan, or if you are enrolled full-time in school you can get another deferral.

Start there and let me hear back from you. We're all in this together.

Peace,
Jim

Tim, I have no idea how long ago your comment was XD, but I strongly challenge you to look up the Paleo or Primal Lifestyle. It's so much more than diet, and it helped me when I was in depression a few years ago.

I know INTJ's don't typically believe in God, but I do. I am a strong Christian (Baptist, to be specific). I went through something similar, not quite the same, but I want you to know that you are not alone. I know you might not appreciate me telling you this, but I think you should turn back to him. Seek a counselor (they can actually help, sometimes) or someone you feel understands you. Please don't hate me if I am totally wrong.

It's nice to know that I'm not the only one with this problem. :))

Sadly I am finding I fall even further into the rare dysfunctional category of a borderline psychopathic asexual/demisexual intj female.

There is only one universe I would be happy in and that's the one where I could literally be a comic book super villian. ;__;

I have the same problem I don't explain my self enough for people to follow me I'm glad when there is someone else understand what I said. Its not me. I don't give out detail only on a need to know base.

Lol on the need to know basis. I have a recently acquired friend and he calls getting to know me "peeling the onion". He says that in order to learn about me, he has to know the correct questions to ask, and only by knowing me better does he know the questions that give him the answers he seeks. He calls it the onion process because it is difficult for both of us, as is peeling an onion without shedding tears. He describes it as "not being forthcoming"! I have never lied and always answer the question, but only the question that is asked and not one iota more.

I agree as an intj i do not have the people skills needed for human interaction. That being laid out i know what i am. I have no freinds and am very happy about it. I dont care about emotional b.s most people come up with in their heads. Knowing this i went to college as a math major. The high intellect we posses makes us almost unmeasurable in a conventional sense. Has anyone else been ask a question and given such a passionately detailed answer the people around say you make their stomatches hurt and they ask you to stop talking? Happened to me alot i stopped talking to others about anything but the weather. You know we dont talk or care about other people or their things only ideas will get validated. Go into yourself and you will be happy. I have one peice of advice. Do Not Work With People. If i tell a computer or a peice of machinery what to do; it does not ask why. I like the personality of the equations on my chalkboard.

Oh my gosh, Sheldon in the flesh!

I have never agreed more...

Someone understands my struggle

I had the problem as well. Drove me nuts for years, my parents even sent me to a therapist in high school. That's when she told me I just had a rare personality, and I decided to take several different tests like this just to make sure.

This is really cool how spot on this is.

Loved this! Very detailed and applicable. I especially enjoyed the parenting section! (^_^)

Great information.
It fits me perfectly and helped me better understand some aspects of my personality that on ocassion I made me feel out of place.
Thank you!

The relationship section was something I had the most trouble with but it explained a lot about myself, I thought maybe I was too cold.

INTJ needs to balance the outer and inner world. It is good to abstract knowledge of various kinds, even to something one does not like. Participating in it with a full insightful comprehension and presenting / communicating it in a much simplified manner, add some flavor of empathetic feelings and emotions. Many INTJ face problem with feelings, they even abuse their own feelings. Learn to talk into people's heart by taking others as a 'challenging subject' in order to make them understand what an INTJ is talking about, the relationship can gradually built up. It is a good start to get into the outer world. Relationship is no doubt an important surviving ingredients in the society. Though INTJ does not feel lonely being alone, they must not forget all subjects that are processed in their minds are largely came from people- relationship. Balance the emotional world well, it's an interesting place.

A couple of minor differences, but overall; spot-on!

This was very interesting, and very accurately describes the way I perceive myself, except that I do deeply believe in a higher power. As an INTJ, I really do want to make sense of the world around me, and there is SO much about the world that makes perfect sense once you accept that God exists and that there's a grand design behind the way we were created. I can understand why most INTJs do not believe in God; I've got one good friend who's an INTJ who thinks I'm a fool for being a believer. I'd be curious to talk with other believing INTJs to learn about what their perceptions are of God and our role in the universe. This is really fascinating stuff!

Jason,
Yeah, the whole least likely to be spiritual was interesting. I would say I would not be a believer unless my brother came to God first. Feel free to contact me darysheron@yahoo.com

Hi Jason I do believe in God and what i explain to others is that Religion teaches morals and you cant argue against morals.

"you cant argue against morals" - You realise that that is precisely what philosophy is for. Arguing morals, what to base them on and whether or not they actually (need to) exist.

I too am an INTJ that believes in a higher power. To me it just makes sense. I can't look at anything without seeing a beautiful, logical, complex design. Therefore, there must be a designer. Besides, there is a spiritual aspect to my nature that is separate from just feeling and thinking; mind and body. These tests don't address that.

yes i agree with that.As i believe in supernatural things / higher power too, like UFOs. Yet the report didn't buy that .....

I do believe in God. Just not the traditional sense. That is still belief. I think INTJs that don't believe at some stage are probably not INTJs for this simple reason - to do true analysis you would immerse yourself totally in the concept. You may reject it after immersion however you were still immersed and had to in some way synthesize belief. That belief is then held up to scrutiny like never before and you come out of the other side of the analysis having reached your conclusion. Total rejection often means that the questions were inadequately answered because the SME's consulted were emotive/condescending/dismissive/avoidant/unreasoning/(insert adjective of choice). God and science are the same thing. The same way intellect and intuition are the same thing. Intuition makes that jump to conclusion by skipping over the intervening areas and intellect follows the methodical process. They can work well together or be put into conflict/opposition to each other by the mind observing them.

If you are really interested in these subjects I would recommend reading books by two Sufi masters who were both remarkably lucid and logical. Their names are Hazrat Inayat Khan and Pir Vilayat Inayat Khan - They were respectively father and son. Both of these teachers were brilliant and pragmatic mystics - a very rare breed to be sure! And consummate teachers as well! They taught from a standpoint of the unity of religious ideals. Their works are complimentary. For an INTJ they are probably the best references I can give you, or anybody else looking for real knowledge given by those who actually did know about what they wrote. There is not a doubt in my mind that Pir Vilayat Khan was in fact enlightened before he died. I was absolutely astonished when I had the opportunity to hear him speak. I have never been in a room with anybody like that man, though a Tibetan Lama I heard lecture once probably was enlightened as well. If you want to know the truth about God, you have to find somebody who has met God. But they are rare as hens teeth. I have met perhaps two in 50 years of searching. But, if you are lucky enough to find the real thing, it probably will change your life forever. And that can also be a very scary thing. Worth it ultimately, but not easy by any means.

For an INTJ, their direct and clear writing is a must. There are many great mystical teachings, but most mystics didn't teach the method except to their close students. Other mystics were just incapable of teaching. These two teachers were remarkably able to write and get the concepts across most of the time if you are willing to think it through. It takes some work, though. One teaching by Hazrat Inayat Khan that I read made no sense at all to me until I had read three different lectures he gave on the subject. Suddenly, I comprehended the idea. As soon as I got it, I realized that this concept does not exist in English. I understood it, but there was no way for me to explain it to somebody else or even remember what it was. It simply got incorporated into how I understand the world in a single flash of insight. I suddenly understood the relationship between at least 10 things I had suspected were related, but had never been able to understand how. And the lectures were in English. I still cannot imagine how he was able to get the idea across at all! Unbelievable genius. If you are interested in religion and the question of God, you owe it to yourself to read their works. Really brilliant stuff. Best of luck!

Thank you for saying this, and I agree. I do believe in a higher power, but not necessarily a "god". There is certainly something else out there beyond our control that science simply cannot define. The Meyers Briggs test tells us we all have personalities, and we have found ways to convey emotions and develop our own thoughts, but where does that all go when we die. It's not like matter that can never be destroyed, for it has no mass in the first place. It's just the electric pulses in our brains that one could say gets "unplugged", but I want to believe that there's something more there than just bolts of lightning in the muscle within our heads. Some people may call them "souls". Do they get reincarnated, or redistributed, into another human being? Do they form into ghosts? Do they survive in an afterlife? It's one of the great mysteries of life, which unfortunately for us folks who want logical answers, is not possible to be solved until death. I just hope that there is something, for nothing would be rather boring.

Jason, your comment intrigues me much, I an INTJ and I believe in super power, I love and hate practice of religion at the same time and I angage myself in analyzing and deconstruct the idea of Gods existence every now and then. A few days ago, I was reading about Stephen hawking's life (He is an INTJ too (with issac assimov and issac newton), how exciting !!), I thought It's really interesting what he thinks about God's existence , "the universe is governed by the laws of science. The laws may have been decreed by God, but God does not intervene to break the laws."

Our role in the universe is something that i also think often, think to the point of getting a fatigue, but unfortunately I haven't found an answer for myself yet.

I'm 18 years old, an INTJ and I believe in God. First of all, I grew up in church, so I definitely had religion instilled in me from a young age. About 2-2.5 years ago was when I really started to mature and my INTJ personality really started to come out. It definitely caused me to question whether I believed my upbringing was right or not. I thought about it very often and I had some serious doubts for a while and considered what other options there were besides a higher power, but I eventually came to the conclusion that there has to be a God. I don't have enough faith to believe that everything in this world has come to pass simply because of chance. It doesn't make sense to me.

As an INTJ, I cannot believe in evolution of human being through random processes as some stupid scientists try to deceive us. Considering this fact, it is very close to believing in God. And in Jesus in particular. Would some intelligent Being create a man and would not tell him about it? And are you aware of any other option than Jesus's story, i.e. complex enough and logically consistent in basic ideas and giving a true meaning in almost everything? Personally I do not know alternative. Despite what some churches and preachers says, it is possible to think of Christian/Bible-based system that is pretty consistent, logical and making much more sense to an INTJ than standard atheism with evolution as an explanation of our existence. Not that I would know all the answers but my current belief fits much better and creates much less unanswerable questions, and eliminates all objections. In fact is is possible to answer or explain almost everything but there is no guarantee the answer is correct. It just satisfies me because of the possibility, i.e. consistency of the system of the faith.

This is awesome. I thought I was alone, but it seems that there are more people like me!

(my few cents on the faith thing) I have found that although it is hard to be logical and faith-based, it is possible. I use my reasoning skills to help justify that there is a God. I also have an atheist friend that I am very close to, and I told him that I can't prove God (there would be no need for faith), but I can answer any questions he has. I just figure if I can't answer one of his questions, then I need to reexamine my beliefs or drop them.

(back to what I was originally going to say) The only thing that I struggle with as an INTJ is that I really want people to see my competence. Unfortunately, my introverted nature doesn't help with first impressions. I can be extroverted, but it is very draining and I don't want to say something wrong in my college interview. I'm not sure what I'm going to do. Any ideas on how to get others to see the mastermind side? (preferably without saying "Hey! I'm an INTJ!" because that would definitely be strange)

(in social situations, not leadership) Does anyone else have to constantly filter their thoughts before they say them out loud? I usually have to either dumb down my thoughts into layman's terms or not say anything so people don't shun me. (I find surface conformity to be helpful so I have friends, so people like me, and so I have their support if it is ever needed)

I am an INTJ and I strongly believe you can be logical and faith-based, I'm Catholic as were some of the greatest minds in history have been. St. Thomas Aquinas wrote of the 5 proofs for the existence of God: Argument from Motion, Argument from Efficient Causes, Argument from Possibility and Necessity, Argument from Gradation of Being, and Argument of Design. Look them up.

I am an INTJ and have a very strong faith (I intend to go to rabbinical school). But logically many of Aquainas' arguments are flawed. Allow me to elaborate.

*The fact that things move does not preclude that there is an entity/deity acting as an external mover.
*The fact that things tend to achieve the lowest state of energy (perceived as efficiency) does not preclude that there is an entity/deity acting as a cause of efficiency.
*"Possibility and necessity" completely falls apart like this:
- if you "Assume that every being (including a deity) is a contingent being." and "For each contingent being, there is a time it does not exist." Then logically there is a time when G-d did not exist and by this definition He fails to be G-d.
- if you decide that "there could have been a time when no things existed." and you then state "Therefore at that time there would have been nothing to bring the currently existing contingent beings into existence." you would be wrong. While no tangible things existed, the existence of constant and consistent fields seems to be the origin of everything (according to M Theory). So unless you intend to redefine G-d as permeating fields but an absence of consciousness and will, this argument works against the presence of G-d.
*Just because we are able to see that in most cases some things are better than others, that does not preclude that there is an entity/deity who is perfect in every way ans who is the cause of the existence of all things.
*The fact that evolution exists does not preclude an entity/deity who is an intelligent designer.

That being said, faith is not logical and can not be proven logically or scientifically. The word "faith" is defined as "Complete trust or confidence in someone or something." and as such defies any logic or science. As long as you can comprehend this *and* make peace with it, you can be an INTJ and a person of faith.

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